Ex-Gay Watch readers have probably read of the frightening anti-gay conference held in Kampala, Uganda earlier this month. Exodus International board member Don Schmierer, Holocaust revisionist Scott Lively and the International Healing Foundation’s Caleb Lee Brundidge were center stage. Scott Lively is best known for having co-written the discredited book “The Pink Swastika,” which claims that the evils of the Nazi Party were a direct result of rampant homosexuality in its ranks. It denies the fact that thousands of gays and lesbians were targeted, imprisoned, and gassed, having been deemed “anti-social” and “undesirable” by Hitler’s Nazi regime, instead it declares most were actually political prisoners. The book acknowledges that some people may have been killed for being gay, but with a caveat:
“There is evidence to suggest that only the effeminate homosexuals were mistreated under the Nazi regime — and usually at the hands of masculine homosexuals.”
Although Lively’s views may seem like those of a fringe activist, Exodus International kept a page dedicated to him and his revision of history on their website until Monday, March 9th. It has now been removed with a line in its place saying “This opinion article by Scott Lively from 1995 is no longer offered by Exodus International.”
Even if Exodus felt it was an extremely relevant piece of research related to homosexuality, it is curious that they could find a way to comfortably justify using Lively’s work. Exodus, like most ex-gay organizations, is affiliated with conservative evangelical Christianity. Such Christian denominations, largely due to a focus on eschatology, do their best to ally themselves with the Jewish community. Christian Zionists support Israel to the point of uncompromising activism. Jews are prize targets for conversion, as many of these Christians believe that the conversion of the Children of Israel will hasten the “Second Coming.” And as the old saying goes, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
But supporting a Holocaust revisionist and endorsing his work is not the way to a Jewish person’s heart. For one thing, whether you are a Jewish person who is religiously opposed to homosexual acts or not, using the Holocaust to make a case against gay people is nonetheless despicable. It diminishes and makes a pawn of one of the most important tragic events in Jewish history, indeed in human history. But even if one can find a way to put that fact aside, it doesn’t matter if Lively acknowledges the death of the six million, it doesn’t matter that the “only” thing that he says mainstream historians got wrong was that gays are largely responsible for Hitler’s Germany and the Holocaust. When one truth is shaded, it throws the door wide open for others to be shaded as well. The truths of the Shoah – every single truth – should never be left to ambiguity.
Emily:
In El Paso there was (and hopefully will be again soon) a Holocaust Museum. The wonderful people who worked there and gave guided tours knew of the horrors either first hand or because they were the descendents of those who were victims of the Holocaust. They displayed ALL the triangles (and star)used to identify people: Jews, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Gypsies, all the way down to the Pink Triangle – for Gays. They spoke of the evils done to all under the hands of the Nazis – Jew and non-Jew. While the Jews were certainly a main target, the message I got our of touring the museum was that HUMANITY was the target…that it was humanity against humanity killing and defying in the most brutal and vicious manner. To strip a fellow human of their dignity and destroy more than their bodies but attempting to destroy their souls as well. Not that they could … because the museum was a clear indication that one may be able to destroy the body, but they cannot destroy the soul.
That Scott Lively would dare belittle the inhumane actions of the Nazis, and even try to “excuse” them for their actions is appalling to say the least. Saying that “effeminate” males were mistreated by the masculine ones … what kind of nonsense is that? Hitler envisioned a Germany bent on domination and superiority. He wanted his race to populate the Earth. Homosexuality would have hindered his plans. He called for German women to be fertile and bare many children (as the Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu would do years later, also making homosexuality a federal crime in that country).
Even the RCC church is going back to add the prayer to convert Jews to Christianity in the Tridentine Mass of the Old Latin Mass. This is a complete reversal to Vatican II when Christianity began to realize that other faiths have access to G-d.
Is Lively really stupid enough to think Jews will read his book and then come to the conclusion that, “Hey, Hitler didn’t cause the Holocaust! It was a bunch of gays who did this.” The guides at the Holocaust museum did their homework, and if someone gave them a copy of Lively’s book they’d probably use it to even out a table with a wabbly leg.
Then there is Schmierer’s connection to Ahmanson, who gives money to Exodus but got started in Christian causes with Rushdooney of “make homosexuality a death-penalty offense” fame. And Ahmanson use to be a member of an Episcopal church which broke with the American Church and aligned itself with the Ugandan Archdiocese. And now Schmierer goes to Uganda, perhaps it was at the behest of Ahmanson for ‘his archbishop?’ Or is Orombi Schmierer’s archbishop?
Entangling alliances, makes for strange bedfellows.
How can one get hold of this book to read what Lively actually says? Here in the UK it seems unavailable.
I’ve been a member and volunteer with the Simon Wiesenthal/Museum of Tolerance here in Los Angeles since 1993.
Lively and Schmierer are appalling and could use the guidance from Holocaust museums and archives themselves.
Whenever someone commits a misdemeanor bias crime, and usually it’s young teens, they are sentenced to community service with our museum.
They interact with the SPLC, ADL and other anti hate advocates listing hate groups or individuals on watch.
That Lively does try to use the Holocaust to further defamation of gay people is despicable as Emily says, and it’s obviously dangerous.
I wonder if people understand that it’s the Holocaust museums across the country that are the authority on that period and not Lively.
Unfortunately, even if the MOT reached out to him, he’d surely put them down as inured of the ‘homosexual agenda’ and therefore unqualified to tell HIM or anyone who believes him who is telling the truth.
Only a person with a conscious would care or not do what he does to begin with.
And just how do we stop someone like him? Why would it take such action instead of people being able to see for themselves?
Scott Lively and his Abiding Truth Ministries have been listed as a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center. See Link: https://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/type.jsp?DT=26.
Here is another link, which shows Lively’s connection to Abiding Truth under its subsidiary Defend the Family: https://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/archives.php?id=6570224.
Regan, the best way to stop someone like him is to tell the truth on him.
He’s an embarrassment to himself, but fails to realize it.
Since no one wants to buy his book, I believe you can read it online at:
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https://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
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Reviewers Praise The Pink Swastika
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“The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party is a thoroughly researched, eminently readable, demolition of the “gay” myth, symbolized by the pink triangle, that the Nazis were anti-homosexual. The deep roots of homosexuality in the Nazi party are brilliantly exposed . . .”— Dr. Howard Hurwitz, Family Defense Council
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“As a Jewish scholar who lost hundreds of her family in the Holocaust, I welcome The Pink Swastika as courageous and timely . . . Lively and Abrams reveal the reigning “gay history” as revisionist and expose the supermale German homosexuals for what they were – Nazi brutes, not Nazi victims.” — Dr. Judith Reisman, Institute for Media Education
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“The Pink Swastika is a tremendously valuable book, replete with impressive documentation presented in a compelling fashion.” — William Grigg, The New American
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“…exposes numerous lies, and tears away many myths. Essential reading, it is a formidable boulder cast into the path of the onrushing homosexual express…” — Stan Goodenough, Middle East Intelligence Digest
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“The Pink Swastika is a powerful exposure of pre-World War II Germany and its quest for reviving and imitating a Hellenistic-paganistic idea of homo-eroticism and militarism.” — Dr. Mordechai Nisan, Hebrew University of Jerusalem
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“Lively and Abrams call attention to what Hitlerism really stood for, abortion, euthanasia, hatred of Jews, and, very emphatically, homosexuality. This many of us knew in the 1930’s; it was common knowledge, but now it is denied…” — R. J. Rushdoony, The Chalcedon Report
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I just asked my 94 year old mother if Rushdoony’s statement was true. She said it was a lie.
A prominent Jewish doctor praising Holocaust revisionism? I’ve seen stranger things. Color me blasé.
There is also this one which seems to have documented rebuttal.