PFOX has been at it again with the distribution of their fliers in schools. This time, the letters were passed out at Winston Churchill High School in Potomac, Maryland. The article in the school newspaper titled, PFOX letter stirs student emotions, details the quickly organized student protest that followed the PFOX letter campaign.
“I thought the PFOX letter was very well written and put up a great façade,” GSA president, senior Chloe Richard said. “Most students didn’t understand why [we] were protesting the letter because it was so well written. It was a good fake out, and it really masked the reality of the organization very well.”
The students at Winston Churchill, in response to the flyers, protested by discarding their letters in recycling bins as well as trash bags labeled “PFOX.”
According to the letter passed out to students,
“PFOX seeks to eliminate prejudice and discrimination against former homosexuals” and “conducts community-building activities that support the individual’s right to all information and self-determination.”
PFOX attempts to mask it’s efforts to recruit ex-gays by promoting themselves as an organization for tolerance and awareness of ex-gays, suggesting that ex-gay is a seperate sexual orientation. While I support any individual’s self-determination in regards to their sexual orientation, I can’t get behind pushing ex-gay rhetoric to public school students. PFOX does nothing more than use the same techniques they complain and accuse gay activists of using. Even more frustrating, is the thinking of many PFOX members that there is no such thing as a homosexual (merely broken heterosexuals), and their refusal to use the word gay unless embraced with scare quotes. In the same breath, these folks insist on tolerance for ex-homosexuals and ex-gays. It makes no sense.
PFOX’s continued distribution of information to public school students seems to have been prompted by the 4th circuit court’s ruling that student backpacks are an open forum for non-profit community groups, religious or otherwise. Regular readers at Ex-Gay Watch may also recall this little scuffle last November over the district’s sex/health education curriculum.
As draconian as it may sound, most educators, including myself, would put an end to ALL distributions of brochures, pamphlets, fliers, or letters. Teachers spend incredible amounts of valuable learning time doling out information as if we were the postal service. One of the most amazing things to me, as an educator, is that enough of these things make it home to upset anyone in the first place. This is why secondary schools mail report cards. The protest staged by the students at Winston Churchill was most obviously a protest because the students actually placed the letters in designated receptacles. Most of the information teachers pass out winds up scattered throughout the halls and across the school yard.
Another concern over the PFOX’s association with public school students is the message they send to those students who indeed are struggling with their sexuality. It seems that PFOX would be more astute in understanding that, yes, it is the word homosexual or gay that causes these young people to live, at times, in fear of what others will think of them. Putting “former” or “ex” in front of it only further convolutes the matter at this point. If PFOX were truly concerned about kids, it seems they’d have a clearer understanding of the fact that providing support for “former” homosexuals and “ex” gays only serves to target those who’ve openly identified themselves as gay. This makes it seem as if PFOX is more of an anti-gay group than an ex-gay affirming group. Surely not.
There’s a difference? 🙂
I say don’t throw them out, we need as many original copies of these letters and pamphlets for the record as possible. LIES ARE FOREVER.
What the crap?
Its interesting to see how okay it is for PFOX to hand oug material in school. BUT, its just so “unthinkable” to see any group that would support gay righs.
How long is this manipulation by conservatives going to last?
Are we not equal citizens?
If were not then at least do us the curtesy of letting us know we arent. Then we at least know whos sincere and who’s bs’ing.
Mike G.
You know, I actually like PFOX like this. It’s actions are rather entertaining. I’ve been enjoying myself for a long time while watching its members make a fool of themselves by doing these things like going to schools and mirroring GSA’s and simply making their hypocrisy so salient!! 😛
I’ll be sitting here continuing to have fun so long as these foolish people continue their laughable agenda. By now, I’ve finished my 25th bag of popcorn (the one’s you buy at the theater). 😉
As draconian as it may sound, most educators, including myself, would put an end to ALL distributions of brochures, pamphlets, fliers, or letters. Teachers spend incredible amounts of valuable learning time doling out information as if we were the postal service.
Amen to that! School should not be a place for political warfare of any kind, and the so-called “Culture War” needs to keep itself far away, too.
Really, they make it sound as though every student is a die-hard liberal or would be immediately condescending towards an ex-gay student. One, anyone who’s ever been near a high school knows that’s not true. There aren’t that many out gay students, much less any ex-gay ones.
Where are the instances of “discrimination against former homosexuals” of which they speak? Surely no kid in high school — who shouldn’t really have that much sexual experience, anyway — would really identify as ex-gay, whould they?
Chauder said:
Ask the people over at teachthefacts.org how entertaining it has been to watch PFOX disrupt an entire school system and cost them valuable money for attorney’s fees. Regina Griggs and the people at PFOX work out their anger and angst over having gay children by declaring war on all things gay. It’s self-centered and disgusting.
I like Larry Kramer’s letter better. (see https://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kramer20mar20,0,1705133.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail) Would it be acceptable to mail it out to all high school students?
PFOX wants to portray themselves as advocates for victims. But doesn’t one CHOOSE to be ex-gay?
It is a complete exercise in doublespeak. I’m glad the kids trashed it. They understand a lot more than a lot of us realize.
Amen to keeping the culure wars out of the schools. This is no place for fettering out parent’s issues.
Children should be taught science, math, literature of all kinds, and be getting preprared to go to college. We, as a nation, are unable to maintain dominance in technology when we spend our time and money on social concerns that belong to the parents and in the home.
TJ,
If you’re implying that the only thing I found unacceptable about it was the fact that it was passed out during the school day….well….that’s not true. I find the literature, the stance, and the attitude in general of PFOX to be unacceptable. However, if they were to mail their information, at least the folks who are paid to deliver mail would be doing the job as opposed to those of us who are paid to educate students doing it for them.
I read the letter you linked to, and I do agree with many of the writer’s points, particularly in regards to gay marriage.
I just wanted to make it clear that I have issues with the message as well as the messengers, not merely the method of delivery.
pam
If the word abomination ever applied to anything, it is PFOX.
Their syrupy way of turning the gay civil rights struggle into a case of discriminatory backlash in order to keep instituted that discriminatory hatred against gays is what abomination is all about.
Mary said:
Yeah, just like the 70’s and integration. Parents had done such a good job up until then that I’m not sure why the schools got involved in that “culture war” either.
David,
You’re being facetious, right?
There IS a place for tolerance education. Yes. However, allowing anywho and whatsit who gets a non-profit tax i.d. number to have open forum in public schools….uh…..not so much.
I realize we “mostly” agree about this….but there’s nothing that says we can’t have a bit of fun discussing it on the blog….eh?
😉
love ya much,
pam
p.s. public schools reflect what’s going on in our culture….they don’t determine it…..just more of my opinion and food for your thoughts 😉
I was pointing out that we can’t simply restrict school to science, math and literature – it’s unrealistic. Having grown up gay I can tell you that stigma and the fact that no one acknowledged that it could be part of a student’s (or teacher’s) life to be gay was more horrible than I can describe. I could easily have attempted suicide if the situation had been only slightly different. This is not the only reason for youth trauma, but it’s a big one and it’s not been addressed at all until recent years.
There is no “ex-gay” discrimination or pressure in schools, and everyone already knows it is ok to be straight. Regina Griggs and the other PFOX people are just mad as hell that their kids are gay and they are using that anger to force their way into schools to interfere with attempts to remedy a real problem, not one they made up.
To be honest, I’ve not met many in the world of ex-gay organizations who really like PFOX. They seem to be the pink elephant in the ex-gay living room. There are ex-gay organizations that I believe have good intentions, but I don’t count PFOX as one of them.
🙂 Thanks David. You make that point very well. Glad I was able to “coax” that clarification out of you.
love and grace…always,
pam
Children should be taught science, math, literature of all kinds, and be getting prepared to go to college.
Well, yes. Hello strawman! Who is suggesting that should not take place?
Unfortunately, life for some students is so fraught with everything from continuous teasing to schoolyard violence that they spend much of their time too much in fear or self-disgust to get an opportunity to learn to their ability.
PFOX is providing but one more “reason” to make the school days of some students both a misery and a day-by-day challange just to justify their miserable existance.
School is a place not only learn the 3R’s, but is an important beginning to adult life, independant of ones parents. Students need to learn what that means — and it includes becoming a good citizen among people very different to yourself.
Teachers have a hard enough time “guiding” the little darlings without also dealing with the personal issues of the anti-gay parents of gay children via PFOX.
PS hi Pam!
Hi Grantdale! 🙂 You’re exactly right. I do very much empathize with what Mary says, though. As teachers we are SO under the gun with high stakes testing and such. These culture wars can drive us to distraction at times, as the focus seems to shift from learning to battling some political issue that has no place there.
Teaching tolerance should (and for the most part is, in the classrooms of dedicated teachers) be a part of day-to-day curriculum in the way we conduct ourselves and the behaviors and attitudes we promote towards others.
I have much more to say about what I think SHOULD be done in schools….but I’ll save it for an article at some point. 🙂
Yep Pam: and we’ll read it like a thirsty man!
Get typing!
PS: you know one of us is a non-teaching “teacher”?
(And PPS: been following everything with you too. Had our reasons for a bit of “quiet time” for ourselves of late, but we have been keeping up. Life… /sigh — kind of a crazy thing at times, but ain’t it so much better than the alternative!)
I have wondered for a few months why PFOX quietly removed Cohen as President. I suspected (like Timothy) that Cohen did something that hasn’t yet been made public.
I can see Exodus and NARTH making attempts to distance themselves from Cohen, but for PFOX it is going to be much harder. Cohen has been such a public face for PFOX, that I will always think of Cohen whenever PFOX’s name comes up.
Related story from CNN:
A judge has ruled that fourth-graders have the right to distribute personal religious fliers in public schools
classroomsas a matter of free speech. The girl was represented by the Liberty Counsel.I read the article, and it sounds like they ruled that it’s okay to pass them out during non-instructional times. Which doesn’t necessarily mean not “in the classroom”, but it’s a bit different than a sweeping in the classroom sort of statement.
Personally, I don’t agree with the passing out of ANY fliers in school. Heck, we don’t even let them pass out birthday invitations in our school district. And we don’t provide mailing addresses either.
We do, however, still pass out way too much STUFF in general, mostly related to non-profit organizations like boys scouts, girl scouts, or sports organizations.
This statement will sound facetious….but I’m being entirely candid when I say…
If you have to pass out a flyer to let folks know how Jesus changed your life, uh…..I gotta wonder just how much “change” has really occurred. But….that’s just me.
I am a teacher in the attention-getting Montgomery County Public Schools. I am also the sponsor of our Gay-Straight Alliance at school.
PFOX and Citizens for Responsible Curriculum (www.mcpscurriculum.com) have been keeping a close watch on the schools on MCPS and recently took the school system to court declaring that MCPS was not being “tolerant” of ex-gays.
I love that fact the PFOX says it is not anti-gay but they seem to hate just about anyone and anything gay.
We have a few openly-gay students as well as students with same-sex parents at Wootton and it just saddens me to see that MCPS has stood to accept the convoluted and hate-based agenda of PFOX and CRC.
So, according to the APA, it is not only healthy but right for children of same-sex parents to see that their families are valued. It does not matter is a family is white, black, gay, straight, conservative or liberal. (I mean, look how Laura Schlessinger raised her son and how he turned out!)
As teachers, we have the duty to ensure all of our students feel valued and safe. How can we do that if hate-based organizations such as PFOX and CRC are allowed to distribute information to students in our schools? What’s next???????
The way I see it, this is a hate-based idea that only wants to tear the country even further in half than it already is. I welcome people to contact me who are reading this from MCPS as well as anyone else.