There’s some buzz going about on the right about a death threat being put out against exgay activist James Hartline. Red State forwards this quote:
“The moment was never riper for the San Diego (LGBT) community to push for the elimination and suppression of the James Hartline’s (sic) of the world. We currently have an openly lesbian (interim) mayor of San Diego and an openly gay mayor of Chula Vista; PEOPLE….WE are in POWER! WE are IN CHARGE!”
The quote was originally published in World Net Daily, who did not deign to link to the source or cite where and when it was released. It is not on the Hillquest web site, whom they alleged published it. There is essentially no proof that this quote was ever published outside of World Net Daily.
If this quote was actually published by anyone, then that is very regrettable, and whoever said it should apologize. Calling for “elimination” of people and suppression of free speech is a bad thing. But since World Net Daily doesn’t have anything to go on but reactionary invective, there’s no way to know.
That’s the trouble with WND, they trumpet headlines that make gay people look bad, but read further to the articles provided, they offer no substantiation for the motives or even if there is a connection at all to a threat or something comes from gay people.
The do the same with headlines that look like people of faith (Christians) are being persecuted and no such thing is going on.
Criticism of Christian activity against women or gay people that’s objectionable to a gay supportive journal or person is very different from legal and political persecution by our own government.
But to read WND headlines, you’d think the police were taking people with Bibles in their homes to jail.
WND has been called on to correct their sensationalism, but they rarely acknowlege that’s what they do.
Journals like WND, or Townhall or even bloggers like DL Foster behave as if there is no such thing as self criticism among gay spokespersons and journals.
They don’t read very far or stick long enough to the subject to find that out.
Prime examples of people who know a lot, about what they don’t want to know.
Joseph Farah goes on a tear often about ‘the gay agenda’ but makes it impossible to be challenged or informed about anything really factual about gay people in particular.
Was is is about the committedly self righteous that makes them so difficult to have a real face to face with the people they are always bad mouthing?
James Hartline is a complete kook. (He sometimes calls himself SaintJames Hartline)
One of his more recent efforts was in getting the Bishop of San Diego to refuse the family of John McCusker a funeral for their son because he owned a gay club (a nice guy, by the way). Funeral is so seldom refused that this made quite a lot of attention in the press. The Bishop later appologized.
Hartline also was instrumental in having some ice rink refuse to let nudists rent it out.
He’s also trying to keep a big cross kept on city property.
If you look at some of his pronouncements, it’s clear to me that he is at least border-line paranoid and has a messiah complex (in my untrained and non-objective opinion).
More is at https://www.hillquest.com/community/jhartline.html
The comment can be found here:
https://www.hillquest.com/a/blog90.html
It now says: “for the elimination and suppression of (the negativity spread by)the James Hartlines” of the world, where the parenthetical expression is in a bold purple font.
An earlier cached version found by yahoo!search says what WND says it says: “the elimination and suppression of the James Hartlines…”
So it appears it was edited at some point after the brouhaha began.
Oh, and don’t miss this little gem at:
https://sdnewsnotes.com/ed/articles/2003/1003rk.htm
and there’s even a pic of kook Hartline at https://www.savecalifornia.com/getpluggedin/sandiego.php
He’s the odd looking fellow with the unusual neck about half way down
There’s a reason we call it WorldNutDaily. It’s not a news site–it makes FOXnews look dignified.
Oh for heaven sake. I just read the “death threat”. It’s a stupid comment from “A Concerned Community Member” and isn’t really about Hartline at all. The focus of the comment was more about stopping the bickering within the community.
If Hartline took that as some sort of serious threat against him personally, he’s more paranoid than I thought.
But from what I can tell, he is just running with whatever nutty thing he can and he really doesn’t care if it’s true. At all. Truth and James Hartline are not even casually acquainted (in my own little opinion).
James Hartline’s problem is that, like many ex-gays, he claims to have lived a life of absolute debauchery and now blames gays for his own stupid decisions.
He’s pathetic. My problem is with the bigots like UberCatholic publisher James Holman, who take whackos like Hartline seriously.
There’s some buzz going about on the right about a death threat being put out against exgay activist James Hartline.
Sounds like a publicity stunt. I’ve never heard of this guy before.
If he wants to be “ex-gay,” why doesn’t he just be “ex-gay”? He should just claim to be straight–nobody would know the difference. And leave the rest of us alone. He’s nothing more than an actor playing a gig.
BTW, it is WorldNutDaily. Founded by Joseph Farah, a former member of the Republican Reagan Administration. There were several web sites that were founded by graduates of the Reagan administration. Farah’s was only one of them. Others were founded by Brent Bozell (who I refer to as Brent Bozo), including the Media Research Center and the Christian…no Conservative…no Cyber News Center (CNS). They all have their gigs. They are apparently trying to make money off their gigs, since they couldn’t make money otherwise. And, as far as I’m concerned, they’re all stupid.
You recall, the Bush administration was the one that ran the FedGov heavily into debt, for no reason whatsoever. GWBush is continuing in Reagan’s path.
raj,
A compelling argument is more likely to sway my opinion than is a derogatory twist on someone’s name.
Slurs are generally the argument of last resort.
Timothy, mockery has a long history in literature. As, for that matter, does pointing out the biases of the authors.
Consider it a total rejection of the source(s).
I’ve been using WorldNutDaily for years. Others have picked it up. I’ve also been using “Brent Bozo” for years. And I will continue doing so.
I don’t know whether anyone has picked up my progression of Brent Bozo’s “Christian…no Conservative…no Cyber News Service” reference. But it is true.
The problem that you have, Timothy, is that people on one side (say, gay people) on the Internet and people on the other side, say, homophobes, are largely talking past each other. They may be using the same words, but they are speaking different languages. So I choose to mock them. Take it as you wish.
For those who don’t know, james hartline is editor and owner of the SD Reader Magazine, and the catholic, SDnewsnotes.
Trav
THE ENEMY FROM WITHIN
How James Hartline became Hillcrest’s most notorious Christian soldier
by Daniel Strumpf
An article in San Diego’s CityBeat on James Hartline’s background and activities.
You know what I just went to the site and nowhere was any threat issued against James Hartline, and the threat of the Lawsuits was refering to the harrassment of James towards, three convicted sex offenders, advising them to sue his ass off.
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/m4m/267439104.html
here is the truth about James Hartline.