NARTH has announced a speakers list for this year’s conference November 11-13 here in LA. The majority of listings are names I don’t recognize and have clinical sounding titles such as “Perceptions and Experiences of Sexual Conversion Therapy Clients: A Qualitative Study.” However the following listings are of possible concern:
Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. – “Judicial Abuse of Scientific Literature on Homosexuality by the American Mental Health Professional Organizations”
Arthur Goldberg, J.D. – “Carrying the Homosexual Agenda into the Public School Systems”
Nancy Heche, Ph.D. – “It’s All About Me”
Konstantin Mascher – “Is Sex a Private Matter Only? Sex, Sublimation, and Its Effect on Society- An Introduction to the Work of J.D. Unwin”
Julie Harren, Ph.D. and Alan Chambers – Roundtable Discussion: “Factors that Help in the Change Process”
Frankly the participation of Chambers and Heche does not help the illusion of respectability NARTH has over more *cough fringe* groups like ohh… lets say PFOX for example. NARTH has not yet announced the location of the conference since in years past activists pressured a host hotel to drop the conference. I live in the Los Angeles area and so submitted a request for a media pass but was declined:
The NARTH Conference is not a public meeting and is not open to the press or the general public. If you would like an interview with a NARTH officer or member of the scientific committee we would need written questions in advance and know to whom you would like those submitted.
D. Pruden
NARTH Board
Hmm… the registration form posted on the NARTH website doesn’t list any restrictions on attendance by the general public. I’m curious to see if the anti-gay media will be given access.
This could be fun.
huh?
Dan,I think we’ll find that this one is a ramp up for Throckmorton’s latest:
These will be largely what’s already on-line at the NARTH site https://www.google.com/u/NARTH?q=Breiner&sa=go&domains=narth.com&sitesearch=narth.com “>[links to all here]
This is one will be the two banging on about their”>https://www.mhmbooks.com/cgi-bin/wwregistry.pl?::cepbooks::view_product::routledge_rout101″>their book
Perhaps “Dr” Heche could expand the description for her session to
(Focus lists her as only a D.Min. so I’ll quote mark the Dr. part until I’m convinced she’s earned a qualification relevant to a “therapy” conference.)But, then, perhaps Nancy Heche may well have some handy tips… about what NOT to do:
As they say — those who can do, those who can’t… teach.
Nancy Heche has a doctorate in couselling? Oh, my, that’s a hoot.
/sarcasm
Okay, so much for the ‘equal time’ THEY want required so both sides can have a forum and call it all legitimate discussion when PFLAG or GSA’s have the floor.
This is what I have a really hard time with.
This traditional response to homosexuality has already been evidenced as negative.
The researchers, for example, who studied the Jim Crow effect on black school children and argued for the abolishment of segregation has similarities in the research on the effects of isolation on gay people.
NARTH keeps defending their work as a choice freely made by those who seek their help.
If a black kid, struggling with their black identity-(who chose to play with a white doll for example as proof of that rejection), would they then say that the black child should further deny their blackness because it was hard to be black?
This same black child didn’t seek their help because something was WRONG with their identity, but they were responding to the social hardships created by an external system.
For every issue we discuss here regarding gay life, there is plenty in the black struggle lexicon that isn’t so divergent.
Remember what Dr. King said about backlash?
There is no such thing. It’s prejudices that have always been there, surfacing in reponse to challenge.
NARTH wants to control and preserve prejudice and refuses to acknowlege anything else that has to change it.
Is it just me…..?
Or are these orgs full of an extreme majority of white men?
I find Dave Pruden from NARTH’s statement pretty interesting especially when you realize that he is protecting the organization so vehemently against “the gay agenda”. I know Dave Pruden personally as I used to be involved with Evergreen International which is the organization that receieves some support from the Mormon Church. Both Dave Pruden and Dean Byrd (NARTH’s V.P.) feel they can convince the Mormon Church that change is possible for all GLBT Mormons. Fortunately not all high ranking Church leaders are in agreement over the NARTH (or the Evergreen agenda for that matter) agenda because these same Church leaders have gay and lesbian sons, daughters, nieces and nephews, etc. They know more of the reality of our lives. They know that the vast majority of GLBT Mormons have tried to change with no success and they also see God working in our lives in other ways that do not match the ex-gay agenda.
Nancy Heche’s degree is in PASTORAL counseling.
Although it sounds like she’s qualified to counsel deer eating flowers in some meadow, it really means that she’s been trained to give some denomination’s religious advice to parishoners.
Basically, she’s about as qualified to offer therapy as is “Dr. Laura” – or the cranky old guy next door, for that matter.
Timothy at October 9, 2005 07:08 PM
Nancy Heche’s degree is in PASTORAL counseling.
I figured that. But I found it amusing that any university would have a course of study towards a doctorate in counseling.
First,
I want specifics on EXACTLY what the ‘homosexual agenda’ is.
Second,
What’s wrong with it?
Third,
How come Exodus and all the rest are the only ones who know ‘The Truth’…
And everyone else is lying?
Somewhere in all these claims is a question that even Chad Thompson didn’t answer.
Identity is a powerful thing. And what requires someone to give theirs up, deserves serious dissent.
One NEVER simply chooses to release an original identity without powerful and threatening coercion of some kind.
That isn’t an opinion, that’s a fact.
The how, the why and for whom that identity is abdicated makes all the difference in what the truth really is.
And those who support the ex gay movement, and those they reach out to….leave this basic and very important fact out of their agenda.
‘Prejudice’, as one Gordon Allport once said, ‘is actively resistant to all evidence that would unseat it’…’in other words, this prejudice is an antipathy based upon faulty and inflexible generalization.’
I’d say this describes ex gay supporters and advocates.
Prejudice compromises progress, and their brand of it constrains honesty..something extremely vital to the freedom a gay person would need to retain their original identity.
I would like to know if this is the same Dave Pruden in the Santa Cruz County Megan’s Law database of sex offenders.
in the state of California, that is ( sorry) .