Hugo Schwyzer and his commenters thoughtfully analyze the Barna Research Group’s findings on high divorce rates among born-again Christians. A three-time divorcee and religious convert, Hugo adds his personal experience, and compares the ease of his divorces with the difficulty of a gay couple seeking to marry in the same churches.
Exodus on the Family — I mean, Exodus and Focus on the Family — are leading a who’s who of religious-right political activists in an Oct. 15 “MayDay for Marriage” rally in Washington. Christianity Today quotes rally leaders:
Ken Hutcherson, pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Redmond, Wash., has a message for politicians, especially those who support homosexual marriage: “Don’t mess with God’s people unless you want your office window view changed.”…
“It is my prayer that our participation in this rally will not only communicate that change is possible to a questioning world,” said Randy Thomas of Exodus, “but that it will also communicate how deeply in love with the homosexual God truly is.”
(Hat tip: Cpt. Doom)
Televangelist Paul Crouch of the Trinity Broadcasting Network is attempting to keep secret the accusations of an ex-gay encounter with former employee Enoch Lonnie Ford in 1996, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Televangelist Paul Crouch, founder of the world’s largest Christian broadcasting network, has waged a fierce legal battle to prevent a former employee from publicizing allegations that he and Crouch had a sexual encounter eight years ago.
However, in threatening to violate a 1998 confidentiality agreement, the accuser has raised concern about his own credibility and motive. (Hat tip: To Dan Gonzales for the AP version of the story.) Christianity Today’s Ted Olsen comments on Ford’s alleged extortion.
Exodus is pleased that a snapshot of its “I Questioned Homosexuality” ad appears in the Sept. 14 issue of The Advocate. But not so pleased that it wants ex-gays to rush out and buy gay newsmagazines. “Instead go buy the September/October edition of New Man Magazine,” Exodus says.
Thomas Fleming of the conservative Rockford Institute laments a collapse of morality and absence of truth among the neocons.
Bill Bennett the gambler; Deal Hudson the student-molester; Elliot Abrams the perjurer; Lynne Cheney the pornographer; Michael Ledeen the plagiarist; Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, David Wurmser, and Richard Perle the lobbyists for Israel … What people, what a movement. And not one of them has seriously lost face either with the Republican Party or with the movement conservatives who have hired and promoted them.
Christianity Today offers 13 bad arguments for same-sex marriage. A few of the arguments are worthwhile considerations. Some of the arguments are distortions of the real arguments; no gay-marriage advocates are quoted. Several arguments are based on discredited claims, such as the imaginary collapse of family values in Scandinavia. And some aren’t real arguments at all — just strawmen.
Focus on the Family accuses two gay-tolerant members of the Congressional Black Caucus of attempting to “silence” a group of antigay black pastors. But it appears that the lawmakers were simply daring to disagree with the pastors; no evidence is presented that anyone actually tried to silence the pastors.
Focus on the Family also attempts to belittle critics of its effort to define God as a Republican and to redefine pro-life/pro-family issues as relating solely to abortion and gay marriage. Focus describes the consistently pro-life Rev. Jim Wallis of Sojourners as a “self-admitted liberal” and “self-avowed Democrat” without any substantiation; Focus also omits any mention of Wallis’ pro-life positions.
Paul Crouch, ohhhh one could just go to town with this one.
::bites tongue::
I know XGW isn’t really for humor but does anyone know of any exgay or fundamentalist Christian current-events/humor blogs? Something with the attitude of The Daily Show but aimed squarely at developments like this.
I never did particularly care for Paul & Jan or the TBN stuff, but I truly hope this doesn’t go the way of Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, or even the Kirk Talley issue. As one commentor responded in Hugo’s blog, so many of the “hate the sin, love the sinner” camp spend way too much time hating the sin and hardly any time loving the sinner.
I suppose, whether the tales are true or not, once it hits the fan and tongues start wagging, it’ll be like Ricky Ricardo. “Lucy, you got some splainin’ to do.”
Hey Mike, can you give me the reference on the research done on Scandinavia? I’m interesting of reading it from a sociological point of view.
Ditto that request. I’ve seen your definition of “debunked” before, and it was synonymous with “debatable”.
OK, you got me there, Marty. 🙂
I was referring to Stanley Kurtz et al. I offered a balanced set of links here, though the articles aren’t available online.
Please discuss Scandinavia there. Additional links would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I would not be quick to dismiss the allegations against Paul Crouch. Several articles that I have read suggest that Crouch actually set up a living arrangement and money for the alleged “lover.” Paul’s attempts to pay off Enoch stand out as very odd. I am sure Enoch is not a “great” person and wanted to blackmail Paul, but blackmail only works if there is something to be blackmailed. Someone who is as principled as Paul pruports to be would probably not “settle” on an issue like this. Remember that the Crouchs worked with Falwell to destroy Tammy Faye and Jim. It seems to coming around.
>>>>Ken Hutcherson, pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Redmond, Wash., has a message for politicians, especially those who support homosexual marriage: “Don’t mess with God’s people unless you want your office window view changed.”…
I wonder why this reminds me of “Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war….” Threatening to toss a few brickbats, are they? Why am I not surprised?
Regarding Fleming’s article (which I read) I feel sorry for his apparent sadness regarding what modern conservatism has become. Obviously modern conservatism isn’t about values or morality as much as it is about money–money for the modern conservative leaders. The idea that Bill Bennett has been resurrected should be mind-boggling to anyone paying attention. (NB: I don’t know who Fleming is or who is sponsoring his magazine, but it seems a bit evident to me that he is also trying to make a few bucks off of conservatives.)
Regarding the Christianity Today inanity, it’s the typical litany that we get from religious conservatives regarding same-sex marriage. I wonder how they would react if told that opposite sex marriage isn’t a civil right, either, but after the state decides to recognize marriage, it needs at least a rational basis for categorically discriminating against same sex couples. Whether or not those couples happen to be gay.
Regarding Focus’s “Focus on the Family also attempts to belittle critics of its effort to define God as a Republican…” I’l merely cite Kissing Hank’s Ass https://www.jhuger.com/kisshank.mv again. When they provide evidence for that their Sky Pixie actually exists, and has registered Republican, it might be worthy of note.
What’s this New Man Magazine nonsense? This is clearly some sort of sham like Christian-Underground I-vote-Values or the AgapePress but I really don’t have the patience to figure out who’s behind this one. Anyone know?
And the top five headlines appear to be gay related. Hmm fancy that. Apparently the contemporary and hip Christian man spends a great deal of time thinking about how us heathens are out to get him.
>Apparently the contemporary and hip Christian man spends a great deal of time thinking about how us heathens are out to get him.
Actually, they’re all gay wannabes.
I received New Man Magazine for a while and only recently convinced them to stop sending it to me (I don’t understand how I got it for 3 yrs. when I paid for a 1-yr. subscription!) The magazine deals a LOT with sexual issues – primarily ‘straight guy’ stuff like sexual addiction, online porn, etc. The last issue I got had an article on talking with your son about masturbation. The author – Dr. Doug Weiss – recommended having monthly ‘check-in sessions’ with your son when he would report masturbatory frequency and the content of accompanying fantasies. I am not kidding. He said this should continue through college age. I had just had a talk with my son about masturbation before the magazine came out. The content of my speach was “Everyone does it. It’s no big deal. Don’t worry about it.” But for New Man (and the related Promise Keepers organization) it is a VERY BIG deal. I’m not surprised their anxiety over sex is now focusing on homosexuality.