Alan continues to find new ways to avoid saying anything of consequence — especially the truth. Can anyone decode the double-speak into answers he does not want to give?
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Alan continues to find new ways to avoid saying anything of consequence — especially the truth. Can anyone decode the double-speak into answers he does not want to give?
he looks exasperated. and aged.
he is aged but he’s completely gotten locked into the system where he could face serious major charges from the courts if he actually admitted that he has been using people for his own personal monetary gain knowing that it’s impossible to change sexual orientation.
The comparison Alan Chambers makes between the success of programmes such as Weight Watchers to aid obese people and the reparative therapy offered by Exodus are total opposites!
Weight Watchers follows nutritional guidelines and is proven scientifically to reduce obesity but Exodus has no scientific proof for the success they claim. Alan Chambers continues to defend the indefensible and I feel like throwing something at the computer screen with that horrible pasted on smile of his!
Excellent illustration from Jack Drescher there.
1. Obesity has obvious and irrefutable negative risks and results on one’s PHYSICAL health. Homosexuality does not.
2. Systemic bigotry and discrimination have negative mental and physical health consequences to those of targeted GROUPS on the receiving end of it. Why isn’t Exodus saying THAT?
3. Equal justice, consideration, education and integration of those previously without it, have POSITIVE benefits to one and all. Exodus isn’t talking about THAT either.
4. Heterosexuals suffer the same pathologies that homosexuals do, regardless of their orientation, but their orientation isn’t blamed for it and heterosexuals aren’t discriminated against BECAUSE they are at risk for these pathologies. Exodus isn’t asked about that or to differentiate so as not to further confuse the ignorant or reinforce it.
5. Just because certain people like Chambers couldn’t cut it, doesn’t mean other people can’t. He just doesn’t have any respect for those that do because by his definition, THEY aren’t holy. I don’t consider declaring one’s religious affiliation the credentials of good character, decency and morals.
6. A person that doesn’t know when something is broken, or makes the wrong diagnosis of a situation while ignoring or exploiting the mitigation that caused it, is exactly the WRONG person to ask, interview or refer to as an expert. I can see that when a gay person is exhausted of having to debate their orientation with someone, or be constantly on the defensive or threatened in some way. I can understand if a gay person is starved for love and a family.
This is not brokenness, this is exhaustion and starvation. Exodus is the equivalent of making that exhausted person affect heterosexuality at a higher and faster pace in order to try and keep up, and feeding them empty emotional calories.
Given Alan’s comparison, I guess he is advocating for ‘anorexia’ when it comes to being gay.
@paul
Jack Drescher’s comments put the nail in the coffin of Alan’s Weight Watchers analogy. Obesity, unlike sexual orientation, is a proven health risk; we know what causes obesity and how it can be reduced, while there’s no scientific evidence linking sexual orientation to such factors or showing that it can be changed or how. The dangers of obesity and the effects of weight loss are rooted in science; sexual orientation change is rooted in religion and assumptions that have no scientific evidence to support them.
Well, people were living by their faith – that’s why they were chasing the left-handed. Their faith was that the left-handed are the agents of devil… so, science and facts put apart, faith the first?
Well, there was a time when the Catholic church outlawed the use of chocolate. There was a time when they would smash the heads and burn alive those who would refuse to live by the common faith. And the murderers of all these scientists were driven by their faith. FAITH was ruling in men instead of reason, that’s why they killed Hypathia – the Greek scientists (you might go through “Agora” movie to know the history: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1186830/).
Reason shall be the first, and the reason shall reign over blind and sometimes harmful and fundamental faith.
Faith enhances barbarianism. There is no lack of it today nor is it any less intense. though tempered by being seen via vid cam, in it’s expression. Barbarian faiths breed separation perfecting the goal of being no better off spiritually/emotionally today than living in sand huts in ancient times. Few may have escaped the clutches the matrix provides of the physical world, but the masses remain entrapped. Much if not all by the evil spoils of religion itself. Sex and “god” are the last
two control bastions the Christian faith is offering up
to be slaughtered, they are both going at once. Alan’s
goal is to keep confusion at the forefront to keep the
masses dazed. He is a dying breed of irrationality gone south.
Of he and his ilk that lie to another saying “god” says gays are sexual sinners when they exist completely within natural order, I tell you this; their days are
numbered. They walk awkwardly as if on eggshells not unlike cats recoiling from water. Their knees are weak and they are reaching point break.
Hypathia will prevail. And she will most likely never fall again.